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| 09-10-2011 11:37 AM |
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Ha I am no expert. BUT I know a blue and gold who is an absolute cuddly tame bird, he even gently pulls the hair on my hand ONE AT A TIME, even so he needs very firm handling. Equally I know of one who is a terror in disguise and needs expert handling (they are a big bird if you are not confident with them).
Find out more about the bird, do you have children in the house? I have a five year old here and while I would love to have a macaw, they are a big bird to have near a small child, our five year old would be petrified!!
Hope this helps a bit, I am sure that members who are much more experienced than me will offer advice to you |
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| 09-10-2011 11:54 AM |
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The best thing would be to find someone who has a B/G Macaw already, and they could tell you what it's like living with a bird like that. The most obvious thing is to ask questions - why do you want one? How much noise can you tolerate? How much do you like your woodwork, furniture, window sills, etc. Why a Macaw? Why not another parrot? What experience do you have? See, there are just a few questions... Macaws, like any other bird, are individuals. Some are cuddly, loving and wonderful. Others are aggressive, nasty, and difficult. Please, take some time to think about all this before making a decision. Too many birds are got on a whim, and end up unhappy. Sorry to be so negative. Doddie |
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| 09-10-2011 12:25 PM |
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Thanks for comments so far. I do have children, 2 although they are both older 18 & 14. My other half wants a Macaw and has done for sometime. We have had an Alexandrine so we do have some experience with birds, I do appreciate these are a bigger bird. I am just looking for any comments that will help us get as much info about them, good or bad :-)
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| 09-10-2011 01:01 PM |
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Maddie you have made the first step and seem to be going about it in the right way. I am sure that over the next couple of days you will get some quality advice from this thread.
Doddie is far more experienced than me, and made a couple of good suggestions, comments and ideas about other things to consider. The only thing I would like to add is have you had a look at the rehoming list?? |
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| 09-10-2011 10:17 PM |
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Hi Maddie
As you can see we have a B&G (Max) he is 6 yo. He is a great character but there are a number of things to take into account.
Size of cage - they are by definition a big bird and need a big home, Max lives in the biggest cage that can be bought, space is needed.
Noise - they as do most parrots have a good shout at times don't call us at 4pm if you want to hear yourself speak LOL - do you have others living close by.
Time out of cage - Max is fully flighted and loves to fly around the room. As with all parrots Macaws need time out of their cage and time needs to be spent working with them, Max lives with us in our living room so is just part of the family, we spend around 4-5 hours each day with Max out of his home and playing with him. We are lucky he will spend time with any one of us so whoever is in the room he will sit with, some only bond with 1 person, which makes it very hard.
Biting - as with most parrots they do nip occasionally Macaws are no different except they have a beak that can crack a shelled almond like it was made of paper.
Holidays - we don't have them it's our choice but its difficult to find someone that is willing to handle a Macaw and his home is not easy to accommodate.
Note you have other parrots, but, I would not recommend a B&G Macaw as a first parrot, they have strong personalities and need to be handled in a certain way, we learnt a lot from having Amazons before taking on the responsibility of Max.
If you can live with and are ok with the above then think again and again if you are still ok then a Macaw is propabaly right for you .
We love Max to bits (as we do all our parrots) and would not be without him the Macaw is a very special breed.
If you do decide to go ahead do not go to a breeder, talk to you local ACO. (or do you know a bird that is looking for a home)
Sorry if the above seems negative it is not meant to be, but it is our experience of living with Macaws for a number of years, I can say we would not change a thing.
Hope of help and best wishes
Paul Loraine and Luke
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| 09-10-2011 11:42 PM |
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Good Morning! Thanks for all these comments, this is just what I wanted, feedback from people who know!! If we do get a Macaw he/she would be considered part of the family, be in the main hub of the house, we are lucky to have a large kitchen/dining/living room where we all congregate most of the time. I would want he/she to be out of the cage whenever one of us is in the house, our Alexandrine used to fly around the house and sit we us all the time. We do have neighbours but don't live on an estate so noise is not soo much of a problem. Holidays are one thing I am discussing with my husband! I am sure it is very difficult to get somebody to "parrot sit" for something as big as a Macaw, my only saving grace is that my daughter does not holiday with us anymore as she is older so we would need to feel confident about leaving her in charge of him/her ....... Cages is another issue, I am leaving this one to the husband to work on! I know they require a big cage and think we are able to accommodate. Keep the advice coming ...... much appreciated. |
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| 09-10-2011 11:58 PM |
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As a general rule, a cage needs to be at least one and a half times the wingspan (in any direction) of the bird living in it. I have a pair of Alexandrines here, and they can be a little noisy. If that's the only experience of bird-noise you have, you're in for a shock. I have had most breeds in over the years (as an ACO I deal with lots of birds) and for me, the worst noise is the bigger cockatoos. Closely followed by Macaw chat. Macaws can't help it - they're big birds, they've got HUGE voices, even when just saying 'hallo'. If you have neighbours in earshot, chat to them first... Alex's are a gentle breed, quite delicate. Macaws are the big yobs of the bird world. Why did you fix on a Blue & Gold? The Greenwings are bigger, but more usually gentle. Keep in touch - I'd love to know what you eventually decide. What area are you in? It might be useful to contact someone near to you, so you can chat, or maybe visit, to get a flavour! Doddie |
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| 10-10-2011 12:12 AM |
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Love the description Doddie your exactly right " big yob of a bird". Paul |
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| 10-10-2011 04:23 AM |
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Great advice Doddie.....I am sure there will be someone who will let you visit and get 'up close & personal' with their Macaw if you let us know whereabouts you are. I have a blue&gold here who loves me but seems to dislike all others!! Of course you could always become a safehouse and try out different birds and maybe get to safehouse a Macaw!!! This would give you a taste of the big guys.... |
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| 10-10-2011 06:44 AM |
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I can't seem to see anything in the first comment box of this thread. Is it me??? |
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| 10-10-2011 06:50 AM |
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No Sharon the title says it all. Get another bottle of home made out!!!!
Mind you a bit more info in the text box is always good, and may incite more responses. (I love that word incite!!) |
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| 10-10-2011 06:59 AM |
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Sure there was a message there when answered this morning. Paul |
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I'm not seeing it if there is. I have two macaws at the moment. One (blue and gold) a BL bird, is the soppiest ever, and my own green wing who was spoilt rotten from birth is a stroppy, one-woman bird. I work on the bird show at the local zoo, and the meanest, stroppiest bird there is a blue and gold whilst the green wing is a sweetie. There is no guararantee with any. I know of two blue and golds who have loved and adored owners, and after illness or at maturity have turned against them totally. Yob is an absoutely perfect description Doddie. I would seriously recommend a spell as a safehouse. The birds teach you so much. We have had people absolutely certain they wanted macaws, and after a spell as a safehouse, they are full of cockatoos. Personally, give me macaws anytime. My lot are generally quiet, but they are the nosiest of birds. If they can't see what you are doing, or want to be a part of what you are doing, they shout. If they see you cooking their favourite things, they shout. It's not usually the constant demands that you can get with toos, but they do very much want to be a part of what you are up to, including the shower, or in my case, going to the local shop. |
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| 10-10-2011 08:03 AM |
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Yep poor Reg (Sharons husband) has a love hate relationship with her green wing. Probably more hate than love!!
Where the BL blue and gold (the same one I talk about in my first reply) is amazing and gets on with most people.
Just mention this to re enforce what Sharon is saying about there being no guarantees when it comes to parrots!! |
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Hi, my name is Simon, Madelyn's husband. Thanks for all your valued information/advice. We really are giving this a great deal of thought. Please keep it coming. We take all the advice on board. The bird we are thinking about giving a home would come to us having just been weaned. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? Best regards Simon |
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| 10-10-2011 09:55 AM |
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I have no first hand experience of Macaws, though I am friends with Sharon H (she lives two doors away from me). I have also been a member of BL for nearly three years and have read many, many posts on macaws. The only cautionary note I can give you about homing a youngster is that it may all be roses until they reach maturity. Once this happens, they may totally go against the human who has so far been the apple of their eye. THis has happened many many times. Oh, and one other thing.....they can cause ALOT of destruction. I think I once heard someone(Sharon H?) refer to them as a 3 year old with a set of bolt croppers????? They can do serious damage to anything and everything - a real challenge when a bird is free ranging.
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Yes, that was me. A winged toddler with bolt croppers was the description. So, how attached are you to your furniture? Nothing in my conservatory, where the birds live most of the time, cost anything much and it is all regarded as more or less disposable. Mine spend a lot of time outside and I don''t have huge amounts of damage to house and home, probably as a result. One of mine loves soft toys, ropes, fabric etc., the other regards me as a human playgym and it is difficult to leave him anywhere but the top of his cage or the tree outside. We will, however, have to replace a number of window handles, window cillls etc if we ever want to sell this house!
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| 10-10-2011 10:33 AM |
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Oh my God.....I LOVE it......A winged toddler with bolt croppers |
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As above,,,,, . My ACO has 4 B&G macaws in the house, 2 are hers which are quite old and are great friendly birds and 2 young safehouse birds who would eat me given the chance, they have done a good job of eating her house to bless em including the plaster. And like Sharon says when they are toddlers they are full of life and a pleasure to be with, but then the hormones kick in around 5 - 6 years of age and the change can be startling to say the least. I would not have a macaw personally an Amazon is big enough for me, i can just about stand a bite of an ammie but a macaw's bill (bolt cropper) scares me  |
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