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Help and advice please
Last Post 05-08-2011 07:07 AM by dianer. 21 Replies.
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26-07-2011 12:17 PM

Hello

I have just bought an 11 year old Triton Cockatoo.    He has been with the same owner for 11 years and was very silly tame with him and with myself and my son when we first saw him.

On the first day when we brought him home he was naturally upset and squawked/shrieked.   I appreciated that and we didn't let him out of his cage in order to let him settle.

On the following day my son let him out of his cage for a while and he was fine apart from catching his neck with his beak but my son thought it was just that he had lost balance and grabbed hold.

When I came home later that day we let him out and he threw a pen around on the table and then nipped my hand - I told him off and he shortly went on my shoulder - he tried to get my earring and I moved my head away quickly - told him 'no' and he then bit my neck.  We put him back into his cage and then let him out the following night at which point I decided to take my earrings out because I know it is a source of attraction to cockatoos.    As I was doing that he flew straight at me and bit my ear and my neck.   It was deliberate and he fully intended to attack me.

He has his wings clipped but had enough power to fly at me.   I then decided to leave him in his cage for a few days just speaking to him and feeding etc..   We were warned that he would bite if in his cage by his previous owner.

After a few days I decided to let him out but wearing a coat with a hood and with gloves on.   He bit through the coat on my arm and the gloves and I kept one hand in front of my face so he couldn't get the only bit of flesh available!

I talked to him and stroked him and put him back in his cage which was fine but when I tried that the next night I must have dropped my hand and he jumped from my arm and bit my nose - luckily on the boney part and not the fleshy end.

I am sorry that this is such a long message but I don't know what to do with this bird.   I have had cockatoos and parrots previously and I am aware that they can take a dislike to one person but I don't want to give up on him as I am sure it is just aclimatising him to his new surroundings and people but would be very grateful for any suggestions.

I hope to hear from anybody who can help.

Diane

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26-07-2011 01:15 PM

No words of wisdom I'm afraid but someone will be along soon to help you I'm sure. So hang in there Diane......and so sorry to hear of your problems!

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26-07-2011 10:05 PM
Hi,Sorry to hear of the problem you are having.
Apart from his previous owner warning you that he would bite if in his cage, did they give you any other reason why he/she was parting with the bird.
Was the previous owner a male, and has he attacked your son, other than catching his neck which you have already said you thought was him losing his balance, or is it just you he is attacking.
I feel that a number of things you have mentioned may actually be escalating this behaviour.
Most birds are terrified of gloves,and a lot are also scared of hats. Keeping him in his cage for a few days at a time is also far too long, he will just become more and more frustrated and agitated.
Its not easy to stay calm with a bird that is attacking you, but if you show him your fear he will pick up on it straight away.
If your son is able to handle him without being attacked, it may be that just prefer males, and he may never change.
Let us know a bit more and I'm sure there will be others along to offer you some support .
Try giving him some camomile tea, this may help to calm him down a bit if he is also hormonal.






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26-07-2011 10:27 PM

Hello

Thanks for your replies.

He does seem to want to attack my son - not as much as me but also because he has seen how he attacks me he is now scared of him.

The previous owner said he is emigrating to the USA which was the reason for selling him.

I will try letting him out of his cage and I do appreciate that he may be scared of gloves and coat/hood but after him attacking me twice without protective clothing I do not want to risk handling him without some form of protection.

Diane

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26-07-2011 11:11 PM
Hi Diane

I know how hard this is for you and wish you all the best.

Just a few ideas, i would suggest not letting him on you shoulder and make sure that where possible he perches below your height it sound he is looking to rule the roost. Try wrapping a a towel around your arm underneath your jumper and try to get him to step up onto you arm, when he does reward and praise, a healthy treat work wonders. Agree with Anne try not to shut him up in his cage that will just make things worse.

Hope of help and good luck Paul
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27-07-2011 03:05 AM

Hi Paul

Thank you for your message. The thing is that he was sitting quietly on my arm when he launched himself to attack and damage my nose so the towel suggestion is useful but it is the face, head and ears that he goes for.

Thanks again

Diane

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27-07-2011 05:24 AM

Diane

Do you think he is as Ann suggested male bonded, we have a Ammie who was the same with my wife but little by little he has come round and now let's her touch him, he still has his moments with her but she can now tell how his is feeling, he's has always been totally fine with me.

You mentioned he was clipped, but could still fly up, wont pretend to be an expert on clipping ( ours are either semi disabled or fully flighted) but sure someone will have an idea if a Birdline type clip would help, someone on here recently had a similar problem to you and it worked for her.

Good luck

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27-07-2011 05:38 AM
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27-07-2011 08:14 AM
Hi Dianer
I could be mile out with this but, maybe he resents being taken from his original owner. Also cockys will try you to see how far they can go. They are like kids, try it on again and again. It is difficult I know but if you can't sort him out, give me yell cos my husband has had dealings with cockys for years in Aus.
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27-07-2011 12:20 PM

Hi folks

Thanks for your help

I am located near Birmingham

I do think that he is resenting being moved from his previous owner and also that he is 'male' orientated.

Could you explain what the 'birdline clip' is please.

We are currently sitting with him whilst he is in his cage talking to him and gradually being able to get a 'kinder' reaction from him.

We dare not let him out as my son hasn't got the confidence to deal with him and I must admit I am not willing to have any further (or more) injuries from his beak

Any further suggestions would be very welcome

Thanks again

Diane

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27-07-2011 03:18 PM

 Hi Dianne, I am near Birmingham so if you wish to drop me an email (via the contacts) and Ill have a read through, see if this is something we can help you with 

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30-07-2011 12:15 PM

Hi Mandy

I would be very grateful if you could help.   Basically the problem is as I originally posted so would be grateful for your help if you can assist.

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30-07-2011 09:35 PM
Hi Diane did you PM Mandy you need someone in the area to pop and see the little fellow I think. Good luck. Paul
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31-07-2011 04:49 AM

Hello Paul

I did try to pm Mandy but the system wouldn't let me so I will have to stick to the forum.

Thanks for your help.

Diane

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31-07-2011 05:05 AM

Hi

I have problems with the e.mails too.  What I do is to select/copy then past onto my own email .   Other than that I use the pm bit that is on the left hand side of the comments bit in forum.  good luck

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31-07-2011 10:48 AM
i have had cockatoos myself and am a proud safe house for an umbrella, she used to bite men badly and bit me once, they like to test alot especially her but time out i find worked for her, but not all 2 birds are the same, i really hope u have progress with him as they are wonderful when they learn to trust, i now have cuddles from her and kisses rather than dominance.

ps. mandy is great, im sure she'll have give some great help
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31-07-2011 01:02 PM

 Have pm'd you my details Dianne. Hope to hear from you soon. 

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01-08-2011 03:55 AM
We have a BL Umbrella Too who has been with us for close to two years. She has been an absolute angel since we have had her but even she has her moments and we are always learning from her. One thing I learned from the forums is that if you bird does misbehave put it on the floor rather than back in the cage. The very few times our girl has been a bit naughty she gets put on the floor and now knows that she has done wrong and will come back looking guilty and would say "sorry" if she could!! She has a very definate preferance to young men though she is as good as gold with me and several of my unattatched female friends but any woman who comes with a man she "fancies" you have to be very careful. There are items in the house she just does not like for absolutely no logical reason (will take off in a panic if I move either of my wooden chopping boards but is fine if they stay still)! You are forever learning their funny ways but she is such a joy to have so I hope you will be able to persevere with your boy and get to the stage where you can also get kisses and cuddles as nothing beats a Too cuddle!!!
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01-08-2011 06:50 AM

Hi

Thanks for all your suggestions and help

I will persevere with Bobby but it is just going to take some time.

Diane

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03-08-2011 12:44 PM
Hi Diane, I had similar problems with Jasper where one minute he would sit nicely on me the next he would just try to take a chunk from me or fly from a door to my head and then swing down to my face and try to get me. I did show my fear and thus it got steadily worse. After advice from Helen & Shell, Jasper was given a BL clip (a clip on both wings that does not prevent a bird from flying, just prevents them gaining height & allows them to land safely should they be spooked or fall). I then went back to basics in regards to setting boundaries and routine. If he misbehaves he is put straight on the floor for a minute or two and then must step up afterwards. It does take time but touch wood since Jasper has been clipped he has been brilliant. Also don't relax on boundaries as if you give them an inch they do take a mile lol!! Good luck
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