Thank you all for your kind words - we holding up ok - hard on my mother obviously and I'm sure Angel must sense it - however we are all much less stressed now that his suffering has ended - so I really hope that passes on to my little girl Angel swell.

I've got my fingers crossed that out of all the things I have put her on now - one will start to show signs of working. One thing I have noticed is more powder back on her again - even without the feathers so that's a good sign and she has a lot more downy feathers around her sides (under her wings) won't hold my breath though - with been there before and I still catch her pulling some out - I definately don't bother telling her off anymore - she just does it more for attention in point of fact - I have found that - when she is out she is worse than in the cage. But hey ho out she comes I'm not keeping her locked in the cage. Is shell about at the moment not heard from her.

Hugs heather